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November 20, 2024
When False Prophets Collide - Don't You Prophesy Against Our Trumpian Idol!
By Anthony Wade
The Council of False Prophetic Hucksters put out a statement rebuking one of their own prophesying against their idol, Donald Trump...
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What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up. If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. - 1Corinthians 14:26-33 (ESV)
The clickbait Charisma News headline screamed - Cindy Jacobs and Prophetic Elders Rebuke False Trump Prophecy! My heart leapt inside my discerning chest and was filled with Christmas hope that the gaggle of Charisma News false prophets had actually repented. Then I read the above linked article. Imagine my surprise that what the Apostolic Council of False Elders and Lying Prophets were actually upset about is one of their own going rogue and not towing the NAR party line. They crossed the Rubicon by declaring negative Trump prophecies and rule number one is do not speak against the dear leader. When you worship an idol, the first responsibility is to protect that idol at all costs and the Cindy Jacobs clown car was having none of it. So, let us reason once more through the above linked article to witness first hand the cage death match that occurs when false prophets collide.
'"A FALSE PROPHETIC WORD TARGETING PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP - I Corinthians 14:29 (Amplified Bible, AMP): "Let two or three prophets speak (as inspired by Holy Spirit), while the rest pay attention and weigh carefully what is said." The Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders (A.C.P.E.) is a group of sixty seasoned prophets who have been meeting for 25 years. Several of the names on this document are pioneers of the modern-day prophetic movement. The ACPE was initially convened after several questionable national-level words were released"prophetic words that caused great confusion within the Body of Christ.
As a council of prophetic elders, our intent remains to hear the word of the Lord together and seek God's wisdom to apply 1 Corinthians 14:29 when a questionable word is issued that could bring fear or confusion, neither of which God authors. It is for this purpose that we write this statement. While we hear various words that seem questionable at best, we have never publicly called out a prophetic word as false in our 25-year history. However, when what is issued is so flagrantly false and carries the potential to incite violence and cause division in the name of God, we feel that we must denounce it as such as a group. Further, there is a clear pattern of disturbing false prophecies being released by a minister who many identify as a prophet. These prophecies are being released to a global audience via social media. Since these harmful words were publicly released to a global audience, we feel they require a public response. We will present them one by one:' - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Where do we start? First of all, it is absolutely hysterical that the alleged prophecy is defined as "targeting" Donald Trump. It is true the prophetic words were about Donald Trump, but targeting? It is clear that Cindy did not like the questioning of the insane NAR support of Trump, so any word contrary is put into the most hostile terms possible. Secondly, in the key verses above, I have included the entire context of the verse they abuse here from Corinthians. Never use the Amplified version by the way. The bigger problem however is isolating verse 29 and ignoring the surrounding context that reveals God is outlining how church services are to be conducted. Not a general rule that if a gang of idiots get together and decide to write a statement and call themselves prophets that the church should bow down and accept it. The actual admonition for only two or three is central to the scripture because God is not the author of confusion. So, using this verse while asserting that there are 60 so-called prophets signing off on this statement indicates NONE of them understand how to divide the word of truth. Let me say it plainer - they say hey God said let two or three prophets speak so here are 60. How biblically moronic. What do you expect however from someone who thinks she is a "general?" The fact that these hucksters have been meeting for 25 years and spewing false prophecies is not impressive. This is however, how the Prophetic Industrial Complex operates. They prop each other up and pretend that because they all agree, they all must somehow be true. If you pay tribute to those who came before you by being under their "covering" then you are in turn given credibility. Jennifer "Sneaky Squid Spirit" LeClaire for example, paid an annual homage to James Goll so she could have the prophetic street cred she needed to set up her massive flock fleecing enterprises.
So, the reason why these prophetic words caused confusion is they were the opposite of the false NAR prophecies that have all declared Trump as the messiah this country and the church somehow should worship. Realize however, that they are MISAPPLYING 1Coriinthians 14:29 as this statement has nothing to do with a church service and exceeds the 2-3 standard by 57 or so. It is laughable for them to admit that in 25 years there has not been ONE word issued that gave them pause to declare it false. Not one! Not David Taylor's declaration that God told him the Broncos were going to win the Super Bowl only to watch them lose 44-8. Not the stupid Johnny Enlow prophecy that God showed him Trump sitting on a throne with a scepter in his hand indicating he was going to win the 2020 election, which he then lost by seven million votes. This group of prophecies however, made them finally break their 25-year drought and only because it dared to consider that Trump's election just might be judgment and not blessing. For the record, I am so glad that these snake oil salesmen decided that this required a public response. God loves using the arrogance of wolves to expose them. So, let us dig into these alleged prophecies with them.
'1. THE "GOD PUNCHED TRUMP" PROPHECY - On November 4th, 2024"Election Day Eve in the U.S.A"a prophetic word regarding Trump's presidency was issued by this minister. Additionally, on November 5th, 2024 (Election Day), this same minister released a separate word connecting a Trump presidency with God's judgment on the people of God in America. Excerpt from the November 4, 2024 posted video: "God punched Donald Trump in the face and his teeth came out and there was a lot of blood. And that was quite symbolic of what he represented. The word of the Lord is this, that there would be a catastrophic time of him (Trump) leading and then he would be removed by God because he had become the champion of himself and then Trump fell over. His partnership with unredeemed sex, unredeemed power, and unredeemed money had opened the door for all sorts of evil to be released through him."' - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Now, it should be mentioned that Cindy's band of miscreants never name this person that is so false, which is very confusing. If this is so egregious that y'all had to take pen to paper to rebuke, why not warn the body who it is that you are speaking about? Thankfully, it is easy to discern and the offender is someone named Emma Stark who sports a faux-hawk that makes her only the second silliest looking false prophet after Kat Kerr. It is delicious irony however that Stark uses Cindy's own game against her. This type of false prophecy is using the exact same language and tactics that Cindy and her gang likes to use. Now, I do not believe for a second that God showed Stark anything, let alone God punching Donald Trump and knocking his teeth out. The substance however is 100% accurate. He has always been the champion primarily of himself. He has certainly embraced unredeemed power, money and sex. Just look at his defending Matt Gaetz, who we know trafficked a 17-year-old paid her for sex, and gave her illicit drugs. Just look at the conviction Trump has for rape. Just look at the fact that he cheated on his first wife with his second wife and his third wife with a porn star. These are the things Cindy Jacobs and the NAR have sold to the church as godly. Is it entirely possible that his election, due largely to the church, is a judgment upon the church? Absolutely.
"2. THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY BEING GOD'S JUDGMENT PROPHECY - Excerpt from the November 5, 2024 posted video: "We, (referring to the minister and their team) believe that Trump is going to be a judgment on the people of God." During the broadcast, it was also strongly inferred that prayer would not change the outcome of these words. They were settled.
3. LEVIATHAN RELEASED BECAUSE OF TRUMP PROPHECY - Other words from within this minister's group have been issued during this time saying a seven-headed Leviathan had been released across the world and brought chaos because of Trump. We also judge this to be a false prophecy that is based out of a political bias and hatred of President Trump stemming from a political world view that differs from his conservative stances. Other "prophetic" revelations and declarations presented in the same media broadcast were also very concerning to us, but we will not specifically address them at this time." - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Without defending the notion that Emma Stark is a real prophet, the fact that the matter of judgment might indeed be settled is not due to the nature of God or prayer but the unlikely situation that the NAR actually repents. When you see that the NAR is tripling down on Trump picking a sexual assaulter who paid off his victim for the Department of Defense, a Russian agent for the head of National Intelligence, and the aforementioned child sex trafficker for the Attorney General, there is little reason to believe that the church will awaken from their slumber. The NAR apostate church demanded a king and God gave them their king. I cannot speak to the "worldview" of Emma Stark, primarily because I have never heard of her but also because the term worldview is just NAR code-speak. Cindy Jacobs and her crew have a worldview that insists every Christian must vote for every Republican candidate, no matter how evil they might personally and politically be. It is hysterical to hear these fools denounce something because of political bias when that is their entire prophetic model! This is however, how the NAR operates. Any word spoken against their dear leader is dismissed out of hand as being biased and based on hatred, instead of undeniable facts. This has led to the church seeking only news sources that will confirm their bias and churches that will swear to them that it is all God ordained.
"4. THE JUDGING THE AMERICAN CHURCH PROPHECY - In addition to the "God Punched Trump" statement, this same minister has also written and spoken on other occasions, declaring that the Church of America has exchanged spiritual power for political power. While this might be the case in some instances, no one we know has done that. Secondly, the inference that the American Church doesn't need Jesus now because they have Trump is also false. The churches and movements that we know of, and there are many, understand that Trump is only human and God reigns supreme. Trump is not God, and we are not glorifying him as such.
However, we also know that this election was not only a national election but carries a global impact "in other words, this election had implications that rippled through nations. Hundreds of thousands of people in the world understand the consequence of electing leaders who are for late-term abortion, gender transitioning of children paid for with taxpayers' money, and other anti-Biblical positions." - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Ahh, nothing like the old tired retread arguments of the NAR and GOP. Cindy Jacobs doesn't know anyone who has traded in spiritual power for political power? Really? How about every single person that signed on to this ridiculous statement? How about Bishop Bill Hamon, Che Ahn, Chuck Pierce, Dutch Sheets, Lance Wallnau, James Goll, Patricia King, Todd White, Jennifer LeClaire, Stacey Campbell, Matt Sorger and countless others. You cannot get any more "sold my savior for politics" than Lance Wallnau, Dutch Sheets and Che Ahn. Che is the idiot who prophesied to his church that COVID was over, years before it was, so he could get them all back in to tithe again. Wallnau is the seven mountains heretic whose podcast is entirely political. Then you have Todd the leg lengthening huckster White, Stacey "can't stop my head from shaking" Campbell, and Jennifer "Sneaky Squid Spirit" LeClaire and you think this gives you credibility? By the way, the argument about Trump as Messiah is a practical one, not a declarative one. No false prophet is going to openly say that but their actions are what matter. This statement is living proof of the deification and glorification of Trump. Someone spoke badly about him, and all 60 of these morons felt the urge to jump to his defense. It is transparently pathetic. You want anti-biblical positions? How about grabbing women by their genitals, rape, 34 other felony convictions, and adultery, oh yeah, with a porn star as well. Who was more likely to have actually paid for an abortion in their lifetime? Please.
'5. THE TYRANNY AND FALL OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA PROPHECY - Excerpt from the November 8, 2024 posted video: "The Lord says, USA, the days of your greatest instability in your history are here and are now. The Lord says lawlessness, America, has been released upon your shores" There will be chaos. There will be loss of life. There will be riots. This will be the culmination of years, and the Lord says you will see in the natural realm a Romans chapter 1, where there is a giving over to tyranny, a giving over to lawlessness, a giving over to the full force of the moral rot " "God is pressurizing and allowing a pressurization to come into nations where democracy doesn't work. Democracy is about to not hold. Democracy is about to fail. It is about to become not the solution that it's been for many decades. Some of the economic structures are going to fall and fold as God starts to say I will provoke you and your citizens to call on my name."' - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Well. Once again, I cannot defend the prophetic bonafides of Emma Stark, who appears just as false as Cindy Jacobs but the substance of what she is saying is more likely to be true than Donald Trump causing revival. The church has already voted for lawlessness. They already voted for a convicted rapist with 34 other convictions. They already voted for a man who said he would immediately fire the prosecutors heading up the other investigation into his illegalities. They already are defending a man credibly accused of sex trafficking a minor while doing illicit drugs. This is not only exposing the moral rot in the country but more importantly in the church. Instead of standing for something, we just give a wink and a nod and are forced to defend the indefensible like Robert Kennedy Jr. was forced to take a picture eating McDonalds. The humility and the ownership by the false messiah is the point and as always, the church keeps missing the point. In 2012 the NAR apostate church demanded Christians vote for a member of a satanic cult in Mitt Romney. In 2016 they insisted that the genital grabbing billionaire was the second coming of King Cyrus. In 2024 they said that unless you voted for the convicted rapist, or even if you chose to not vote at all, you were going to hell. The Faustian bargain was agreed to. Your false messiah owns the church and to prove it, he nominated serial sex offenders to key cabinet positions and demanded you defend them and defend them you have. Democracy is about to fail? Democracy already has failed within the church because they have sold their souls for thirty piece of political silver and it does not matter if now, they regret it like Judas before them. That said, it is clear from the 60 false prophets writing here, that there is no regret. There is only public rebuke when one of their own goes rogue and starts disagreeing with the demonic narrative they have established. The "general continues:
"The A.C.P.E. judges these words as false. Our concerns are as follows: We believe these words are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and fail to pass the scriptural tests for discerning true New Testament prophetic words (1 Corinthians 14:3; Revelation 19:10b; John 6:63; 1 Corinthians 13; 1 Corinthians 14:1; Galatians 5:22,23). We believe the words represent harmful curses (Romans 12:14; Proverbs 18:21). We believe the words, if acted upon by those who are immature or unstable, could incite violent actions against the president of the United States of America. (See example in 1 Kings 21 regarding Jezebel and Naboth's vineyard, illustrating how an evil word"when spoken and acted upon"can come to pass and bring about severe and fatal consequences.) We believe these words could produce a corporate agreement in a demonic plot, giving the enemy a landing strip and the power to fulfill the curse, thus bringing it to pass (Genesis 11:6; Mark 4:24). I Corinthians 13 strongly admonishes us to operate out of love. It is sandwiched between I Corinthians 12 and 14. The words in question do not reflect love." - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
Now, there is a lot here and one of the tactics of the apostate church is to throw a bunch of scripture fragments out to apply a patina of piety and hope that no one actually looks to see what the bible says. Let's go through them one by one.
1Corinthains 14:3 - "On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation." - Note that the false prophet brigade always cites this verse and fails to understand that it is edifying to properly say what God has said. It is encouraging to warn people of what is to come, even if it is for disobedience. It is comforting, or consoling to tell the truth. Their blanket assertion that because the words spoken were not puppies and rainbows means it must not be from God is biblically idiotic. Read the vast number of prophecies in the bible. They were not all pancakes and kittens. The word spoken to Ninevah was edifying, encouraging and consoling to the Ninevites because it spared them if they heeded it. The problem is Cindy Jacobs would never adhere to a biblical word.
Revelation 19:10 - "Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." - We should always worry when someone cites half a verse because that is ripping it even more out of context than they usually do. Revelation is a word of what is yet to come. In this instance, John is merely being corrected that the only one worth worshipping, is Jesus. Because God is ironic however, the wolves in Cindy's pack cannot see that this verse applies to them. They are bowing down to Trump and citing a verse that says they should not be doing so. Hysterical.
John 6:63 - "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." - It is difficult to see what they are claiming here? That the words spoke by Stark are not spirit and life? Why? Oh, because they disagree with them politically. Right. Next!
1Corinthins 13:1 - "If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal." - Once again, it is not love to see someone driving off a cliff and hold their hand singing Kumbaya. A true prophet would have no compunction with delivering difficult words to idolators. The only issue is if the word is true. While I do not believe Stark was shown this by God, the substance is truer than what the clown car has been selling. It is far more likely that Trump is judgment upon an apostate church than he has a Deborah anointing or an Elijah mantle, as Charisma News tried to put forth.
1Corinthians 14:1 - "Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy." - This one literally makes no sense. It says to desire the gifts that you may prophesy and they are speaking against someone who is claiming to have done that. I guess they do not think it is loving to speak against their idol.
Galatians 5:22-23 - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." - These are obviously about the gifts of the Spirit and has nothing to do with prophetic words.
Romans 12:14-16 - "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly." - So, according to Cindy Jacobs someone with a different political opinion is somehow speaking curses and offers these verses that says we should not curse those who persecute us. Except she has not offered any proof that these words were an actual curse. Just like citing Proverbs 18:21, which says the power of life and death are in the tongue. So, it seems that to prove that Stark is offering curses they cite verses that says curses exist. Good job. What they are doing is just citing verses for the sake of sounding pious. The citing of the story of Naboth is only relevant if the word spoken by Stark was actually evil. They are trying to prove things in reverse. They have concluded ahead of time that Stark's word was false and evil and then offer up a story about how an evil word can cause turmoil but the problem is their entire stance is predicated on Stark's word actually being evil. It may not have come from God but is no more or less evil than the countless words they have uttered and supported that have led to Trump's election. Their silly language about somehow Stark's words could give a landing strip to the enemy and somehow constitute a demonic corporate plot reveals how unserious these folks are. Landing strip? Is the devil now an airplane? Genesis 11:6 and Mark 4:24 have nothing to do with the fulfillment of curses. 1Corinthians 13 does say that that we are to operate out of love but not love for lies and untruths. Not love for people leading the church into bed with Satan. Their assertion here reveals how little they actually understand scripture. If Stark's message is true, then it is absolutely love to warn people. We do not love the lie beloved. So, in totality, Jacobs and her clown car just cited multiple verses out of context to try and prop up their biased opinion that Stark's prophecy could not possibly be from God because it disagreed with their gushing idolatry of Donald Trump. Mercifully now, the clown car drives off the cliff:
"TAKING THE MATTHEW 18 APPROACH - In accordance with Matthew 18, we have approached some of these prophetic voices with our concerns about these words. We asked them to retract these presumptuous and dangerous words, which we have deemed to have been prompted out of the wrong spirit. So far there does not seem to be any willingness to listen to the counsel of the voices that this person not long ago considered to be mothers and fathers in their lives. Our desire was to address these issues privately and hope for a resolution that will bring healing to the person and the Body of Christ. Unfortunately, those efforts have not yielded fruit.
Due to the serious nature of the words being shared publicly"and how they could be used to either release a curse that one may unwittingly agree with or even inspire one to fulfill its violent rhetoric"we felt it was important to make a public statement about our views of these public proclamations. We had hoped that there would at least be an acknowledgment that it was not wise to release these words publicly but rather to submit them to mature oversight and perhaps intercession. We are deeply concerned for the members of the Body of Christ who have been hurt, confused, and jarred by the context of the word and the dogmatic tone in which it was delivered. As a result of this grievous concern, and our deep love for this ministry and those who heard the word, the Holy Spirit directed us to issue this statement. In humility and in the fear of the Lord we do so. SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE - We love the prophetic and believe it has the potential to bring God's purposes into the earth like nothing else can, but we also are zealous for its integrity and ministry to be pure and ministered in proper protocol and wisdom. We are praying for those involved in releasing these controversial and detrimental words and hope they will move in a rightful and mature way to heal the land and not speak division and destruction. We love them, pray for them, and believe God will move in their lives." - The Cindy Jacobs Clown Car
This is not in accordance with Matthew 18, which is another scripture set the NAR apostate church loves to abuse. These scriptures are dealing with when a brother sins against you, not that you think someone has uttered a false prophetic word. Maybe if Stark had directly prophesied against Jacobs she could then try and find solace in Matthew 18 but pretending that her Trump prophecies amount to personal sin is biblically insane. Keep in mind that Stark's words were not presumptuous or dangerous - they just disagreed with Cindy and her crew. They are all in for Donald Trump and have supported the liars that sold the false notion that Trump was God's choice. As such, they feel compelled to come against anyone who might expose them for the voracious wolves they are. Do not fall for the absolutely stupid notion that disagreement with Cindy Jacobs equals releasing curses. That is Christianese gobbledygook. Jacobs and the ACPE are not the least bit concerned about hurting members in the body of Christ. They supported spiritual psychopaths like Jack Hibbs, Mario Murillo, and Greg Locke who bullied and beat the sheep into thinking they were actually gong to hell unless they voted for Donald Trump, including those that may have chosen to not vote at all. That is not speaking the truth in love. That is speaking for the devil in hatred. They do not love the prophetic. They love the false prophetic businesses they have established that generates their money. Emma Stark represents a threat to their bottom line and the idol they serve. That is all that is going on here. Claiming that only agreement is allowed is spreading division and destruction, just like Charisma, Hibbs and the rest of the wolves have consistently sown leading up to this election. To finish off their fake piety, they close this absurd statement in a faux-prayer:
"LET'S PRAY - Father, we love your voice. We believe you have ordained a new day for America and that you will use newly re-elected President Trump to help bring this to pass. We believe in your mandate to disciple nations and ask you to help us to fulfill this commission! We love you and your kingdom and your people. We know that you love your prophets and need them to speak your word in purity and integrity as never before. We are praying for every nation to turn to you and receive your blessing! God, we ask that You bless us with reformation, revival, awakening, and a great harvest in this hour. Bless America and heal our Land!"
They do not love the voice of the Lord. They only love the sound of the echo of their own voice, which is why any other voice that disagrees has to be publicly shamed as being false, divisive and dangerous. It is only dangerous to the grift they have set up in the apostate church. Note that they believe God has ordained a new day for America. That's great but it doesn't make it true. They also have concluded that Trump will bring this to pass. Emma Stark is presenting the opposing view, which is that Trump represents judgment upon the church from God. As sated, I do not believe any of these people heard from God. They present two opposing political opinions. Stark's however represents a closer reality in that when you look at the depth of depravity that Trump represents and how the church demanded the sheep vote for him, that he would represent judgment upon us like when God gave Israel the king they demanded in Saul, seems reasonable. Realize in closing that reformation, revival, awakening, harvest and discipling nations is only biblical if you represent the truth and Cindy Jacobs and this group do not. Jesus once rebuked the Pharisees because they would travel the world to make a single convert only to turn them into twice the son of hell that they were. That is the reality of a group of such false, compromised charlatans who are genuinely offended that one of their own would dare to disagree with their nonsense. The bible does not promise a great end times revival. It promises a great end times apostasy. The ACPE and Emma Stark are leading that apostasy but on this particular disagreement between them, it would seem Stark is much closer to the truth. She may not be too tethered to reality, but Stark wins this cage match.
Reverend Anthony Wade - November 20, 2024